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or: an unintentional Cohost requiem

Alyaza Birze (January 12)
The process of enclosure, of carrying out our activities within these private [corporate tech] platforms, changes us, including how we relate to one another and the underlying purpose of those relations. [...] Once physically and legally enclosed, the soil began to be treated as a machine, whose role was to be as productive as possible. So, too, with our online activities, where our relationships and conversations are our modern-day yields, designed to harvest ever more data. As with corn and soy grown in great monocrops, quality and individuality are sacrificed in favor of standardization and homogenization, even when homogenization takes the form of individuals all competing to stand out as quirky and utterly unique.
Doppelganger, chapter 2

i'm in the middle of reading Naomi Klein's book Doppelganger, and in the second chapter of the book she makes a point about corporate social media (and corporate technology more generally) and how it has enclosed the internet. far from the libertine, do-what-you-want spirit that once characterized the internet—or even the promise of freedom of expression and mass social connection that was effectively the selling point of early social media—we now live in an almost totally enclosed, enshittified internet experience. our social relations online are almost fully privatized and monetized by megacorporations, and the resultant data we inevitably give these corporations is trivially bought, sold, and analyzed by anybody who wants to do that. it is quite bad, and leads to many subsequent bad consequences.

one consequence is, as Klein observes, a mass homogenization—something that likely has an already existing name but which i personally call the caricature problem. i'd like to take some time to sketch this problem out, how Cohost avoided this problem and why it was so enjoyable, and what we'll be losing now that it's gone.

the caricature problem

in short, the caricature problem is this: the internet is so enclosed and so algorithmically captured that it punishes expressing the totalities and complexities of ourselves. to stand out we must exaggerate or flatten ourselves—become caricatures of who we are—into digestible, predictable personalities for consumption. we must in effect become marketable brands. as Klein notes, this is not incongruent with individual quirkiness or uniqueness: actually, those qualities frequently become a manifestation of this problem. even when we would prefer not to, we frequently become pigeonholed into acting out the qualities which other people perceive as defining us. gimmick or single-issue accounts "breaking character" and receiving backlash can be thought of as an example of this—but virtually all of us are subject to this pressure at some point or another, and in one way or another. often times we (preemptively) reduce ourselves like this without even realizing it.

how does this problem come about?

as described, this probably feels like an inevitability. of course social media run by Mark Zuckerberg, Jack Dorsey, Elon Musk, and a cadre of other cretins with psychotic technolibertarian beliefs would render us all caricatures in this way. these are people with a very specific, very inhuman idea of what social relations should look like. but the problem is created by something more fundamental: that we mediate nearly all of our online social relations through private actors at all. the enclosure of the internet provides corporations with such a wealth of data that it is trivial for them—both individually and at scale—to manipulate every aspect of how people interact and in what ways they do so. and of course they have every market incentive to do so (to say nothing of other—frequently political—incentives).

the most prominent and omnipresent manifestation of this is algorithms, without question: how you experience social media today is overwhelmingly determined by mechanical processes that are hidden or obfuscated from you as much as possible. a good social media algorithm is invisible, and yet in its essence reflects the amount of data you (and everyone else) put into it. needless to say, we put an unfathomable amount of data into these private actors—the things we post, who we talk to, the things we like and interact with, and so on—and all but hand them the capacity to "objectify and quantify social life in numerical form," as Richard Seymour puts it in The Twittering Machine. but it should be no surprise that to "quantify social life" in this way produces perverse incentives—rounded personalities are punished, caricatures are rewarded; substantive exchanges with complexities are buried, simple narratives encouraged; and personalities become hostages to their algorithmically-served-up audiences.

this is bad, but perhaps it would be easier to stomach if the ability to "quantify social life" was not simultaneously being sold back to users in the form of metrics, which are actually even more omnipresent. social media is simply awash in numbers: likes, dislikes, reshares, comments, quoted posts, views, follower counts, post numbers, and a frankly endless number of other meaningless units. and this is to say nothing of dashboards that track profile statistics, link clickthroughs, and other business-oriented number values that have little meaning but are usually accessible to literally anyone.1 it is simply trivial to become a caricature because you are given the ability—in painstaking detail—to know exactly what people want from you, exactly what they don't, and what might make people care or be more social with you the next time you post. this is obviously a recipe for disaster. unless you're explicitly looking for it, who sincerely wants to be on the wrong side of an issue, or the bad end of a ratio, or become the main character of the day and have thousands of people gawking at you for sport? and conversely who doesn't like being reassured they're correct, or having 10,000 people listen to what they say (even if it means compromising on their personality)?

many other factors besides algorithms and metrics inform all of this, of course, but they alone demonstrate the point sufficiently in my view. (they also have unique relevance to Cohost and why the website largely avoided these issues.)

Cohost and its lack of the caricature problem

now, i cannot give you any sense of what should be done about this at the systemic level besides "fundamentally overthrow the existing political, social, and economic system we live in, since replication of this issue is good for business"—and obviously that's a bit of a non-answer. but i do think there are alternatives to this that can exist even within a capitalist framework. Cohost demonstrates this quite well.

ask virtually any Cohost user and they will tell you that Cohost was an incredibly freeing experience for them—a space where they felt the ability to be themselves instead of a living commodity. frequently, users of the site talk about being "deprogrammed" and "detoxed" from the corrosive influence of Twitter and Mastodon metrics, which had previously governed how and what they posted about; others talk about how Cohost finally allowed their art to coexist alongside their other interests. Nicky Flowers writes of the site that "i didn't have to be Nicky Flowers™️, Internet Person Trying To Appear Professional Enough To Hire. no number-go-up, no clout. i was simply nicky." and still another common feeling is that Cohost had a sort of egalitarianism among posters where, because you could only infer influence, even "big accounts" were approachable and able to be socialized with on equal terms.

all of these experiences—and others like them—were clearly and in large part facilitated by Cohost's explicit design choices. from the beginning Cohost committed to no algorithms (instead opting for a chronological timeline and a Tumblr-style tagging system) and a near total absence of metrics (the only numbers was a private-facing notification number, which could be turned off). these were highly-touted selling points for the website, they were substantial talking points in word-of-mouth, and they were extremely well-liked choices by people who used the website actively.2 even among skeptics the initial shock and discomfort from the metric choice in particular consistently tended to wear off with time. many of the theoretical problems one might conjure from their absence also simply did not happen in practice.3 "lack of engagement" for example was a reason many artists on Twitter were skeptical of the site's lack of metrics. far from this dampening visible enthusiasm for creative projects though, Cohost had a bustling art scene—especially among writers and musicians, whose mediums of choice mesh poorly with contemporary social media. although anecdotal, it also seems well established that Cohost users were quite generous and had an unusually high click-through rate for artist projects.

i will refrain from drawing strong, sweeping conclusions here due to self-selection bias, but i would argue that Cohost demonstrates quite compellingly that metrics—and algorithms—are completely unnecessary components of a full social media experience. we do not have to be turned into caricatures. it is also entirely possible—even with a small team—to build a functional, modern, well-liked social media platform without either of these. this of course begs the question of why companies don't do this more.

what we will lose with Cohost

i don't need to tell you that the answer is capital. it always is. whether they acknowledge it or not, websites make an explicit, ideological choice to encourage this phenomenon. as Richard Seymour says, data is "one of the most profitable raw materials yet discovered," and yet it is simultaneously easy to induce users to make more of it. you can see a sort of vicious cycle: data is produced by engagement so you juice engagement with algorithms that reflect user inputs. you provide metrics that quantify a user's social life back to them so they know what algorithms and people following them want. those users produce more data. rinse and repeat, the users are—in the most dehumanizing sense possible—the product. Cohost's model eschewed this, so it's an obvious nonstarter for most people in the social media business today. for most social media companies an explicit part of the path to profitability includes selling out their users (usually in multiple ways!) to venture capital firms.

but this illustrates what we will lose without Cohost: an actually existing example of a better world that is possible; a sort of socialism-in-one-website if you want to be tongue-in-cheek about it. it's not as if Cohost ever threatened the existing capitalist hegemony in social media or anything, but you might still analogize its loss to, say, Cuba, or Rojava, or the Zapatistas suddenly collapsing tomorrow. Cohost was—more or less—a genuinely socialist, cooperatively-owned social media company, a beacon of light in an appalling industry. it really sucks to see a radical experiment like this fail, and it's not obvious that another experiment like it will occur given what needed to align to make Cohost happen in the first place. the market is also a harsh mistress: that Cohost lived its values; demonstrated social media might be able to exist without making users a product to be bought and sold; and allowed its users to be real, fully fledged people means devastatingly little. as far as most people are concerned what Cohost stood for is not a viable product because it failed, and the discussion ends there.

but i don't want to say everything is completely dour, even though the probability of another Cohost-like website is obviously low. strictly speaking many Fediverse communities are also examples of this model, and so someone will continue to keep the lights on (just at a much, much smaller scale) where markets almost assuredly won't. in my view the model is also clearly sound, even at Cohost's scale, with better planning and better budgeting. if someone ever scrounges up the money and coordination to make it real, i don't see anything actually stopping a Cohost-like website in principle. maybe a "successful Cohost" in the future will succeed because it learns from its predecessor—becoming the 1917 to Cohost's 1905. i don't know.

if nothing else, though, i hope that the principles of Cohost (there is value in being in the same place as everyone; metrics are ruining our lives; human curation is good and social media algorithms have been a disaster; etc.) continue to inform the immediate future of radical social media. i would like to look back upon this as a "dress rehearsal" to a tech future that does not completely suck ass

footnotes

1 at one point—and perhaps still, although i have not checked—Twitter provided every user with a dashboard of all of their posts, the amount of interactions they received, the best performing tweet over a given timeframe, and dozens of other measures from which it would be trivial to determine what you should and should not post.

2 by far the most consistent critics of either of these choices were users who did not even register for the site, at least in my experience.

3 a lengthy aside i'd just like to put on record somewhere: to the extent that there were actual points of friction introduced by these design choices, these tended to be more inconveniences than legitimate issues with continued usage of Cohost. should tagging or following cool people that interact with your posts have been such a load-bearing aspect of discovery on Cohost? perhaps not, but i would not describe this as an actual issue—this feels too weighty for what was more an inconvenience than anything. many of the issues were closer to future-proofing than anything else. deprioritizing metrics can, for example, be a legitimate impediment to identifying where abuse is actually coming from. on Cohost this could have eventually become a serious issue since it was possible to sort of "quote retweet" a post, and none of these notified the person whose post was being "quote retweeted". but to my knowledge this was never a substantial vector for harassment; certainly Cohost was never lacking in harassment or harassers who could have done this. in any case, i think i would rather grapple with the complexity of squaring that circle than put up with Twitter metrics because it's slightly easier to trace who is imploring their 100,000 followers to harass you.

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Alyaza Birze (October 1)

Put together with odd bits of the useless Clarice, a survivors' Clarice was taking shape, all huts and hovels. festering sewers, rabbit cages. And yet, almost nothing was lost of Clarice's former splendor; it was all there, merely arranged in a different order, no less appropriate to the inhabitants' needs than it had been before.
Invisible Cities, Italo Calvino

as we move into the post-Cohost era, and i turn my attention to the Website League, perhaps this idea from Calvino is worth considering. perhaps every website is, in a way, a Clarice: iterating itself, cannibalizing itself, until the only commonality between what was and what is are a few shared objects that can no longer be placed. this notion would reconcile well with Cohost as the ideal―a frame of mind that can be embraced, taken, and implemented somewhere else. i don't know that i'd personally go that far; but i do believe that the technical ideas of Cohost can be taken and implemented somewhere else, and should be. it is part of what we're doing with Website League, which in a sense is a Clarice of Cohost.

as of writing (but likely to change shortly after this goes up) the Website League is not formalized yet. but it will be, and we will begin the process anew. the huts and the hovels, the festering sewers, the problems that are and will be will take their forms again; they'll be forged into new things, better things, things with the same splendor, yet in some ways things still be predicated on the old. and the old will persist in a few forms: the cosmetic changes we liked on Cohost; the libertine ambience; the constant creativity; of course the HTML crimes and perhaps CSS crimes eventually too. maybe we'll do better about the racism, maybe the community will be more diverse. it can't be guaranteed, but nothing can be.

programming notes

i have manually archived all of my September posts on my website and updated the RSS links to them so they link to the right spot (/archives/2024/september). unfortunately, this has the side effect of duplicating them (and therefore making them unread) in your feed, which is a minor inconvenience but also extremely not ideal functionality. i suppose i have a month to figure out the best way to handle this again, or else make you put up with it again. we'll see. there does not seem to be a perfectly elegant way to do what i'd like here.

i'm also slowly standardizing/organizing the navigation bar at the top over there; if things change on you there, that'll be why.

what i'm reading

launching Website League has really eaten into my pleasure reading time, so i have little to update you on with actual books. but i have been reading, and i think today's reading cuts to the heart of a lot of what people loved about Cohost, want to see in the Website League, and are trying to rebuild with their own websites as a whole (i am among them!). earlier this month, Paris Marx and journalist/union leader (for Media Guild of the West) Matt Pearce sat down and had a conversation about Google and Meta, and how they're squeezing the life out of journalism. i did not happen to catch that conversation, put on Marx's podcast Tech Won't Save Us, but i did happen, yesterday or so, to read writer Philip Moscovitch's takeaways from it. helpfully Moscovitch transcribed a point from Pearce that seems unambiguously true: the hyperlink is being strangulated.

instead of allowing information to be effortlessly linked from one place to another, hyperlinks on the major social media platforms are increasingly punished explicitly, and generally deemphasized, deboosted, and sidelined in favor of algorithms and slop. as Pearce describes it, and the consequences of this active choice:

There is a real bias against hyperlinking that has developed on platforms and apps over the last five years in particular. It’s something that’s kind of operating hand-in-hand with the rise of algorithmic recommendations. You see this on Elon Musk’s version of Twitter, where posts with hyperlinks are degraded. Facebook itself has decided to detach itself from displaying a lot of links. That’s why you get so much AI scum on Facebook these days. Instagram itself has always been kind of hostile to linking. TikTok as well...

If you degrade hyperlinks, and you degrade this idea of the internet as something that refers you to other things, you instead have this stationary internet where a generative AI agent will hoover up and summarize all the information that’s out there, and place it right in front of you so that you never have to leave the portal… That was a real epiphany to me, because the argument against one form of this legislation was, “My God, you’ll destroy this fundamental way of how the internet works.” I’m like, dude, these companies are already destroying the fundamental way of how the internet works.

i'm sure many of you within the audience reading this can infer, but: this creates very real stakes to making archives, to maintaining public "good links" pages and documents, and to hyperlinking all the things you love when you talk about them. it guarantees them a visibility―or at least the safety of being indexed somewhere―that the major platforms are actively attempting to prevent and kill. they want their blackboxes and walled gardens; if we want to deny them that ability, keeping the links circulating is a necessity.

(for my part in this: i'll be creating a links page in the near future about all the cool stuff i find. i'm already a chronic link-keeper so i need to do some formatting, but i'll announce when it's up. optimistically? this week.)

blog roundup

Cohost eulogies and posts

there are a lot of these floating around. here are a few; some critical, others more positive.

  • It Was Like a Website In There: cohost Memories (Nicky Flowers):
    I decided to open up my inbox to anyone who had any memories they wanted to share about using cohost, and have them help me make this post. Thanks to everyone who submitted something—you're part of why I'm so sad to lose this, dare I say it, community.
  • Yo, Buddy. still alive. And thanks friend. See you again. (Iro):
    From my extremely selfish viewpoint, it was a nice place to load up when I felt like it. I could post what I wanted and people usually cared to interact with it. That instant feedback beyond likes and shares (and most importantly, instant feedback that was usually insightful and interesting) did a lot for me. The pace was not as breakneck as twitter or a discord server, not as slow as a full blog. I could read good posts and interact with them. There were so many intelligent, eloquent, hilarious people to follow. I don't think I ever quite felt like one of them.
  • to far shores (Kayde):
    but cohost? cohost fucking fixed so much of my brain. it was a social media detox. i didn't just learn why numbers and mutuals and the whole engagement spiral of other sites fucked me up, but also learned ways to cope with that damage and even heal from it a little. ways to be more open and earnest about people around me. i'm still learning - we all are, of course - but i'm never gonna let myself forget the lessons i got out of cohost.
  • More Mindful Internet NOW - A Cohost Eulogy (Julian):
    I feel the lack of visible notes and numbers likewise encouraged users to truly make it their own corner of the web, with little regard for other's opinions. Some people would say they want numbers because how else are they supposed to know whether people like their work or not? To me, that's exactly why I say good riddance. If you could get over the initial insecurity of not knowing, or lacking the constant stream of validation you've learned to expect from other social media, there was a chance to reconnect yourself with whatever you were sharing and *why* exactly you wanted to share it in the first place, because I'm sure most of us didn't take on creative endeavors simply because we wanted attention. Cohost uplifted me as a creative by reminding me of that, getting my mind off the numbers, and helping me realize again what truly mattered to me in my work.
  • A better World Wide Web can exist: What comes after Cohost (Ognik):
    Cohost was… imperfect. I’m not sure if I’ll miss it as a whole, and not just the mutuals we had and the plural community which we owe so much to. But Cohost’s entire community… look, we’re white so we didn’t suffer from the racism, the overwhelming majority of the community was white, and that is the only reason why we and they can claim the website was good for our mental health. If you listen to the POC who left the website before it shut down, their opinions are wildly different. Some of them are bitter, and very understandably so. I won’t be getting very deep into it, I don’t want to, but I feel the need to be the voice of criticism here: the staff fucked up right from the start. I’m not sure what frustrates me more: the idea of initially inviting only your friends and family to join the website and then invite their own friends, and then being surprised that it’s become a place where people different from your social circle feel extremely alienated – or the idea of having one, single moderator, and being surprised you’re unable to properly deal with harassment against the most vulnerable users.

Cohost community roundup

outside of this week's retrospectives, here are some pretty cool posts from around the block by people from Cohost.

  • To The F-150s Disguised As People (Woodcutter): a humble poem to one of the world's most annoying and dangerous vehicles

  • Death Cab for Cutie - Asphalt Meadows (2022) (Everything Spins):
    The songs on Asphalt Meadows are largely really good to excellent and the world-weary, oft-tense mood of the album is what gives it a flair of its own, but it's the balance of ideas from where the band are in 2022 and from where they were years ago that makes Asphalt Meadows come to life and connect as a piece of work. I don't know what's to come next, but Asphalt Meadows opens up the possibilities for anything.
  • Biking in the city is fun, actually (Laura Michet):
    A lot of the social bike rides in the urban part of LA are about choosing weird routes--cutting through the street grid in ways you wouldn't expect. There are groups out there that play games with their ride routes, choosing roads based on strange themes... or even using a kind of basic choice tree that results in sorta-'procedural' route generation. There really is nothing better than grouping up to bike somewhere you're kinda-sorta not allowed to be... or not expected to be... or wouldn't choose to be, if you were by yourself. Almost every time I go out with a group or by myself, something weird happens. And I would be absolutely done for, emotionally and intellectually, if weird shit wasn't constantly happening in my life!!
  • Coffee Quest #34: 7-Eleven Convenience Store Coffees (Maddie Nine Coffees): No, I'm not engaging in self-destructive behaviours because my familial relationships are on fire. 😎 Why would you say that?
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this is an unstructured post which serves as a bookend to my feelings on Cohost and its whiteness issues. (maybe one day i'll more formally write these feelings up but, functionally, i already did what amounted to a sort of "consulting report" on Cohost's racist outcomes for free.1 it's a lot of work) to a degree, these also reflect my feelings and worries about the Website League.

perhaps the most thing to acknowledge is: Cohost was always incredibly white, and even granting valiant efforts i doubt it ever could have definitively solved this problem. the founding community was almost monolithically white; the people they invited, likewise, were almost monolithically white. network effect decided this, at least, early. it has always been almost inconceivable to imagine a Cohost with a large visible minority community, and now it will stay that way.

a small visible minority community took hold, nevertheless. for this we suffered many ignominies and digital discomforts, and collectively the feeling is bittersweet. Cohost was always better to some degree about racism than other websites, but simultaneously this is a bar that is subterranean. with hindsight much of the anti-racism seems hollow, or at least performative, given the many people who were driven off the website. one of my visible minority Cohorts put it best: "[Cohost's community] felt barren, and worse than that, it felt fake, as those who remained just kept going with their usual lives, as if the lack of protesting meant everything was fixed."

the cultural notion shared by many of those closest to the founding community to simply "curate your experience" or to imply that having a bad time on Cohost was a self-imposed problem perhaps emphasizes that perceived hollowness and performativity. one obvious example: i (and others) did not opt into being harassed by having anonymous asks open—why should it be incumbent on me to change my behavior because others abuse the feature? and how are you supposed to have a good time on Cohost if speaking up about your experiences with serious, real-world subjects makes you the center of a month-long racist harassment campaign? why was there—why is there—a notion that the visible minorities were the missing stairs for speaking up about their feelings and experiences, rather than the people creating those experiences for others on Cohost? there was a parasociality—a protectiveness—that went beyond acknowledging the limitations of staff. it would not be unreasonable to say that at times people actively victim blamed users for their bad experiences and criticisms of the site. and they still do, because that's the nature of investment in things on the internet now.

(all of these proposed solutions did not work, in any case. and it annoys the fuck out of me that people seriously suggest the issue was ever "seeking out problems" or "exaggerating issues to get mad at". you are shadowboxing; real people were hurt by all of this and they very much did not seek any of it out!)

history, of course, will never be able to judge what the efforts to address these would have done at the end of Cohost's life. maybe it would have gotten better, felt better, felt safer to more fully participate in—more likely the cake was baked early, the damage done after the repeated moderation failures. one of the epitaphs of Cohost will probably be that infamous comment symbolizing that failure—"the topic was extremely controversial and we were afraid to take action on anything due to the vitriol we would inevitably face if we seemed like we were censoring or controlling the conversation." it's a bitter pill to read now. it's also bitter to have seen bad actors boomerang into full-blown problems because of a lack of action. i don't know if it's responsible to adjudicate blame—and certainly it's not productive—so i won't. failures are frequently systemic, not individual, in any case. maybe having one mod was a broken, unworkable system from the start.

my fellow Beehaw admin Gaywallet notes in our community documents for that site: "We also need to be hyper aware of minorities which are relatively rare due to the law of large numbers. [...]let’s say only 1 in 100 people are trans - we now have an equal amount of trans people and jerks on the internet. If even 1 of these trans folks don’t want to engage with a jerk, a single bad actor can quickly drive all transgender people off a platform like this one." i think it is reasonable to conclude this is what happened with Cohost.

many have spoken to the fact that Cohost's anti-harassment measures were not useful and failed from first principles; i think i agree. the issue was more abstracted and hidden, yes, but still apparent. this was especially the case with the aforementioned anonymous asks. i will maintain to my grave that a feature which cannot be enjoyed by everyone should probably be scrapped. i've been through a lot of bad experiences so i am willing to put up with a lot. but i still think about several of the incredibly invasive, deeply fucked up asks i got through this feature before i had to turn it off. there were other issues too: persistent notifications, for one, even if you blocked a person; the lack of persistence of blocking across subpages; the inability to see your post's propagation; the fact that if a person adds to your post and you block them, their followers can still see your post, etc. most of these were noted well in advance of being problematic for visible minority users.

maybe all of those would have been fixed with infinite time and money; they were not, so you live with what was. but this rendered many of the insinuated benefits of Cohost—the things that enabled its lack of harassment—purely cultural. and culture is malleable. it can fail too, and it can create outgroups. in many respects it did fail, creating an outgroup of anyone who did not at least superficially resemble the fabled Founding Cohoster in demography. visible minorities naturally got the worst of this: the worst of any backlash, the worst of any harassment, the worst of absent moderation. so it goes.

there have always swirled rumors of favoritism among moderation. i cannot speak for this. but it would never surprise me. given the problems: would it surprise you?

and you might say to yourself: none of this is Cohost exclusive—and this is true. most of it is also worse elsewhere than it was on Cohost. but i expect this elsewhere and bake it all in; there's only so many times you can be told to kill yourself on Tumblr, or report someone on Twitter for calling you a nigger and watch them not get banned before that washes over you as a cost of doing business. i reached that point when i was probably 13 years old. i have been harassed, stalked, called approximately every mean thing and told to do every horrible thing to myself in the book. my family has been harassed at times too, and my information is likely irrevocably public for reasons entirely out of my control. obviously it's all traumatic. but it also is what it is.

but i didn't bake these in on Cohost because Cohost asked me to imagine that a better social media was possible (certainly for people like myself who are fatalistic about the internet)—and i did so. i had faith that if i did my job, staff would do theirs. sometimes this was true, and i'm glad it was. many times though, and for many people besides myself, it was not. is it our fault for having high expectations if someone sets those for us?

an aside about the Website League

all of this is of course stuff i think about with Website League too. the community is mostly Cohost's, with many of the early users of Cohost. we set high expectations for ourselves and what this looks like, and we ask people to be optimistic about what we're doing because what else is there to ask? are we making the mistakes Cohost did by being this way—are we setting ourselves up for failure before we launch? i don't know. maybe you can't know before it's too late. the future has a way of being opaque until it's clear and crashes into you like a great wave. or maybe the analogy should be Hunter S. Thompson's: that with the right kind of eyes you can almost see a high-water mark of optimism in a project—the place where the wave of momentum finally breaks and rolls back toward reality.

maybe Cohost should have expected what came of its early choices; maybe the consequences of these choices were realized too late; maybe they were swallowed by that optimistic wave, the sense that a better world was channeled through the site. i have no definitive answers and i think it improbable anyone does either. but there is much to be learned from it—much to be avoided, much to be done—for us who build after it. all of these questions and more are the ones we should be asking as the sun sets on the Fourth Website. Cohost was so White, but post-Cohost doesn't have to be.

notes

1 donations ensured i made minimum wage back on this, for what little that's worth.
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The traveler recognizes the little that is his, discovering the much he has not had and will never have.
— Italo Calvino, Invisible Cities


every person has their own eulogy to write about Cohost; this is my own brief one.

Cohost was my primary social media website from the beginning—and in most senses of the word i was a true believer in the mission. (the site will lapse with my $50/yr contribution still in the barrel.) with its demise i'm not sure what the path forward is, in a few ways.

interpersonally, and with respect to my online presence: everything feels like it fills only one small part of a void, not even close to the whole. the most natural one-for-one alternative is Dreamwidth; but, without widespread adoption, it'll mostly be me talking to myself. i despise microblogging, but most people seem obliged to stop over on Bluesky. Tumblr is, well, Tumblr. and i'm not technically savvy enough to set up comments on here (absent it being built in to the software itself already). already, it feels like we're trading down substantially here.

more than anything: i will miss the one-stop-shop nature of Cohost, where it seemed like you could read about anything someone wanted to put their time toward on any given day. it was a centralized hub for all things nerdy and worthy of a longpost. the nuances of the world found a refuge here and thrived; now it seems we'll all have to make do with a blogosphere of our own. i generally echo the sentiments of Fourth Website Down, Three to Go :( from Nicky Flowers in this regard.

technologically: there are a lot of people in this world who deserved—and who, simply put, needed—something like Cohost, but won't have that anymore because the market has decided it is not profitable to be "a moderately-large social website that tries to actually design everything to benefit its userbase instead of predating on them". this sucks. the diversity of the web will be smaller now in its absence—and every worse, predatory model benefits from this. that sucks even more. i can only hope that one day there is a Hague for the people who designed the modern web.

ideologically: i am strongly of the opinion that something like Cohost cannot really survive in a capitalist economic system; or, alternatively, that to survive it would require exploitation that would counteract any good the website itself does. i dislike the cliche trope that in order to do something, capitalism must be overthrown—but this is a case where i think it is applicable (in part for reasons we'll get into further below). there will be facsimilies of Cohost but likely nothing approaching the complexity or community of the real thing. the legacy of the site itself will almost assuredly have to live through its internet diaspora.

a handful of things we might learn from Cohost?

Cohost was not all roses. there seem to already be lessons to learn here, and i don't think it's gravedancing to acknowledge them.

the elephant in the room is finances. despite its goal of eventually being in the black Cohost was never even approaching profitability and was always tethered to a short financial runway through having a single, not-particularly-rich investor. the plans to change this, juxtaposed against actual numbers, paint a picture of not knowing just how deep in the red the site was each month.1 even generous estimates imply losing six figures per year, and frequently tens of thousands per month. despite the open finances, the most basic stakes of the finances—whether the site was two days, two weeks, two months, or two years from shutting down—were severely opaque at basically all times. it's fitting, given that opaqueness, the announcement of shutdown came suddenly. you would be forgiven this month for thinking the site would still exist a year from now.

i personally think it's quite goofy, but salary discourse is undoubtedly going to take up some of the Cohost retrospective space given the "large numbers" at play there. more interesting to me is the refusal to use volunteer labor, a position i personally believe they should have compromised on and which may have afforded them more time to get the house in order (and less being tied to the whims of employee availability). in the future, i hope websites with the buy-in of Cohost recognize and utilize this resource.

obviously, there's also the racism/moderation issue i wrote about extensively. moderation will never be perfect; but on Cohost the recurring pattern was inaction until it was far too late. this seems like it only changed because of my extensive post on the subject and, if not for that, may not have at all. simply put: i hope that future websites looking to Cohost as a model learn from that post, and i hope future users of said websites do not have to write an 8,500 word document like i did. my advice? invest in a diverse mod team and a diverse founding culture, and cultivate it with your life.


there are likely other takeaways and issues that will become apparent as more people publish their own retrospectives—maybe i will link to more of these as i come across them.

notes

1 the Eggbux snafu is the obvious example here. user @quyksilver also notes, however: "Artist alley brought in about $800/month, which is enough to cover like...10% of one staff member's monthly pay. How many man-hours were put into this?" simply put most of the monetization looks in hindsight like trying to cover an arterial wound with a kleenex tissue.

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i'm obviously quite busy and balkanizing my time between about 10 websites; things will hopefully get more streamlined when Cohost finally goes read-only and i can then focus into the future.

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